- anne selden annab : Time is on HAMAS's side, but is HAMAS really on Palestine's side? If Islamists manage to sabotage the current negotiations sovereign Israel wins more time to take more land and radicals win an avalanche of reasons to become even more radical.... Palestinians in exile will remain in exile, and rather than investing in secular civil institutions and ideas Palestinians remaining in the impoverished fragments of what was once historic Palestine will be forced to fund and empower either Islamic or Jewish efforts to win sympathy and support
- tzatz : The short answer … NO. The long answer … NO.
Hamas has a agenda … a Muslim supremacist agenda … an Islamist agenda … but not … a Palestinian agenda.
Frankly, this Muslim Brotherhood affiliate, is the ONLY Muslim Brotherhood group in charge of a territory in all of the Arab/Muslim world … yes Somalia and other failed states have Muslim Brotherhood/Islamist groups … but THEY LEAD TO CHAOS & ANARCHY … this is OK in the Muslim world … their culture sucks … but in a modern state … this is IMPOSSIBLE to deal with … our world is built on progress … efficiency …
Egypt does not allow the Muslim Brotherhood to gain strength as a political party … and they are the home country of its leading philosopher
Syria does not allow the Muslim Brotherhood to flourish … they destroyed the city of Hama … killing 25,000 people … “in 1982, approximately 200 SYRIAN MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD (SMB) fighters led a large-scale insurrection in Hama. The government … responded indiscriminately by bombing Hama for two weeks without interruption. Hama was decimated. Between 20,000 and 30,000 people were killed. The majority were non-combatants, including women and children. The animus between the SMB and the Syrian regime continues to this day. The regime of Hafez al-Assad's son, Bashar, continues to uphold Law 49 of 1980 to strangle the movement. An uneasy calm has taken hold for more than two decades, with few exceptions.”
That's how Syria dealt with the Muslim Brotherhood
Jordan has a Muslim Brotherhood political party BUT keeps tabs on them through their secret service in order to make sure the 'Hashemite' King stays in Power.
They are loathed … put under secret service surveillance … proscribed …
YET …
the Israelis have to 'deal with them'? Huh? Arab States don't want them but the Israelis should treat them as an interlocutor?
Where's the disconnect? If it weren't so funny …
but that's the Arab/Muslim world … hypocrites
HYPOCRITES
- Traidenis : Since recognition of Israel by Hamas is considered such an essential step by Israeli leaders, I would like to know how important it really is: How many sleepless nights have the leaders of the strongest military power in the Middle East spent because Hamas does not recognize Israel
- Dec1 : Iran also developed Electric Car. Even recently Saudi University developed one.
Oh yea, your MEMRI wont translate stuffs like that for Western Media. They translate only honour killing, fatwas etc.
Dont show us that you are the only answer to future. That dominating years are over, whether you like it or not.
Readers may check who is MEMRI and what service they do
- tzatz : You said: “I would love to have Israel as a responsible scientific partner, work together on advances in medicine and other fields”
This is taking place as we speak … Israel is making the chips that run your computer … creating programs that run your computer … developing the technology that will run the 21st Century … NOT ALONE … but in tandem with their American counterparts and their counterparts in the West
You said: “but it has to learn to get along with its neighbors first … but the vast majority are not (terrorists) and need to be treated with decency and respect”
Of course this is true … President Nixon once spoke about … America’s ‘SILENT MAJORITY’ … they didn’t march in the streets … they didn’t burn their draft cards … they got along BUT he needed the SILENT MAJORITY to step up and vocalize their displeasure at the tyranny of the few who were dissing America …
Well … where is that SILENT MAJORITY in Islam? When the Mohammed cartoons came out … protests and flag burnings and lynchings were in the air … where was the SILENT MAJORITY … to say … calm down … this is a minor issue
Well … where is the SILENT MAJORITY in Islam? When this Iranian woman is about to be STONED TO DEATH for an alleged crime … on trumped up charges? Are they marching in the streets to protect her?
Well … where is the SILENT MAJORITY in Islam? When Hamas continues to send rockets at Israeli population centers for years provoking a response. Are the Gazans marching in the streets to say STOP … NOT IN OUR NAMES ARE YOU TO FIRE ROCKETS WHICH THEN GET US KILLED.
Well … where is the SILENT MAJORITY in Islam? When Hamas continues to indoctrinate the youth of Gaza and the West Bank with TV and SCHOOL TEXTS inciting hatred for Jews/Zionists/Israelis … glorifying suicide attacks … glorifying becoming a shahid … a martyr for Allah … Where are the Gazans marching in the streets to say STOP … NOT IN OUR NAMES ARE WE GOING TO GIVE OUR CHILDREN FOR YOU TO KILL.
When that day arrives … Inshallah … there will be peace in the Middle East and I will not be wasting my time writing on this site but rather enjoying a round of golf
- tzatz : The short answer … NO. The long answer … NO.
Hamas has a agenda … a Muslim supremacist agenda … an Islamist agenda … but not … a Palestinian agenda.
Frankly, this Muslim Brotherhood affiliate, is the ONLY Muslim Brotherhood group in charge of a territory in all of the Arab/Muslim world … yes Somalia and other failed states have Muslim Brotherhood/Islamist groups … but THEY LEAD TO CHAOS & ANARCHY … this is OK in the Muslim world … their culture sucks … but in a modern state … this is IMPOSSIBLE to deal with … our world is built on progress … efficiency …
Egypt does not allow the Muslim Brotherhood to gain strength as a political party … and they are the home country of its leading philosopher
Syria does not allow the Muslim Brotherhood to flourish … they destroyed the city of Hama … killing 25,000 people … “in 1982, approximately 200 SYRIAN MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD (SMB) fighters led a large-scale insurrection in Hama. The government … responded indiscriminately by bombing Hama for two weeks without interruption. Hama was decimated. Between 20,000 and 30,000 people were killed. The majority were non-combatants, including women and children. The animus between the SMB and the Syrian regime continues to this day. The regime of Hafez al-Assad's son, Bashar, continues to uphold Law 49 of 1980 to strangle the movement. An uneasy calm has taken hold for more than two decades, with few exceptions.”
That's how Syria dealt with the Muslim Brotherhood
Jordan has a Muslim Brotherhood political party BUT keeps tabs on them through their secret service in order to make sure the 'Hashemite' King stays in Power.
They are loathed … put under secret service surveillance … proscribed …
YET …
the Israelis have to 'deal with them'? Huh? Arab States don't want them but the Israelis should treat them as an interlocutor?
Where's the disconnect? If it weren't so funny …
but that's the Arab/Muslim world … hypocrites
HYPOCRITES
- Traidenis : Since recognition of Israel by Hamas is considered such an essential step by Israeli leaders, I would like to know how important it really is: How many sleepless nights have the leaders of the strongest military power in the Middle East spent because Hamas does not recognize Israel
- Dec1 : Iran also developed Electric Car. Even recently Saudi University developed one.
Oh yea, your MEMRI wont translate stuffs like that for Western Media. They translate only honour killing, fatwas etc.
Dont show us that you are the only answer to future. That dominating years are over, whether you like it or not.
Readers may check who is MEMRI and what service they do
- tzatz : You said: “I would love to have Israel as a responsible scientific partner, work together on advances in medicine and other fields”
This is taking place as we speak … Israel is making the chips that run your computer … creating programs that run your computer … developing the technology that will run the 21st Century … NOT ALONE … but in tandem with their American counterparts and their counterparts in the West
You said: “but it has to learn to get along with its neighbors first … but the vast majority are not (terrorists) and need to be treated with decency and respect”
Of course this is true … President Nixon once spoke about … America’s ‘SILENT MAJORITY’ … they didn’t march in the streets … they didn’t burn their draft cards … they got along BUT he needed the SILENT MAJORITY to step up and vocalize their displeasure at the tyranny of the few who were dissing America …
Well … where is that SILENT MAJORITY in Islam? When the Mohammed cartoons came out … protests and flag burnings and lynchings were in the air … where was the SILENT MAJORITY … to say … calm down … this is a minor issue
Well … where is the SILENT MAJORITY in Islam? When this Iranian woman is about to be STONED TO DEATH for an alleged crime … on trumped up charges? Are they marching in the streets to protect her?
Well … where is the SILENT MAJORITY in Islam? When Hamas continues to send rockets at Israeli population centers for years provoking a response. Are the Gazans marching in the streets to say STOP … NOT IN OUR NAMES ARE YOU TO FIRE ROCKETS WHICH THEN GET US KILLED.
Well … where is the SILENT MAJORITY in Islam? When Hamas continues to indoctrinate the youth of Gaza and the West Bank with TV and SCHOOL TEXTS inciting hatred for Jews/Zionists/Israelis … glorifying suicide attacks … glorifying becoming a shahid … a martyr for Allah … Where are the Gazans marching in the streets to say STOP … NOT IN OUR NAMES ARE WE GOING TO GIVE OUR CHILDREN FOR YOU TO KILL.
When that day arrives … Inshallah … there will be peace in the Middle East and I will not be wasting my time writing on this site but rather enjoying a round of golf
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